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Vyapaka Dasa June 17
This email was forwarded to me and I thought it may be of interest to devotees. The name of the sender will be kept confidential as no permission has been sought to allow its publication. So let the letter stand only on its merit:
Here is my analysis and general response.
Srila Prabhupada stated clearly to Nanda Kumara and others that there were infiltrators in ISKCON trying to destroy it from within. That means they were in the leadership, not rank and file. Here is the quote from Nanda Kumar:
"Srila Prabhupada told me something personally. His Divine Grace said... "There are those among us wearing dhoti, sikha, tilaka and neck beads, but they are not devotees. They are agents of kali who are here to try to stop our movement. You (said to me, but meaning all of us, especially those with a ksatriya nature) should find out who they are and weed them out." That's an exact quote.
Srila Prabhupada also wrote in a letter to Hamsadutta in 1970, regarding problems within ISKCON:
"...I do not know how far they are correct, but I have written him a letter that he may not do something which may harm the interest of the Society. You are also one of the members of the GBC, so you can think over very deeply how to save the situation. It is a fact however that the great sinister movement is within our Society."
Bhaktivinoda Thakura also confirms that this happens within the Gaudiya Vaisnava community:
After the time of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, those faithful to Him kept apart from non devotees, to avoid contamination. Seeing this, the personality of Kali sent his representatives in disguise to pollute the Vaisnava sampradaya. Posing as Vaisnavas, they spread their wicked doctrines, and appeared so intelligent and devoted that only pure devotees could detect their real identity.
Most devotees -- not only the most neophyte – were enchanted by their tricks. In this way Kali's agents expertly introduced karma, jnana, and anyabhilasa in the Vaisnava sampradaya and caused suddha-bhakti to vanish from the world. [end]
IF there is clear and compelling evidence to indicate that there was an ‘attempt' to poison Srila Prabhupada, that must be brought to light and made public. It is a totally moot point whether Srila Prabhupada actually succumbed to the poison because of his spiritual sakti. That’s not the issue. The point is whether there was indeed an ‘attempt’ to poison him.
If there was, then it further validates Srila Prabhupada's statements about infiltrators. We cannot ignore Srila Prabhupada's statements in that regard. And, more importantly, it means those infiltrators are still in the movement. And it doesn’t matter that all the GBC from that period in the 70s are almost all gone.
Infiltrators get new people to take over for them to maintain control and continue skewing things, like editing books, etc. They don’t just fade away and die. Infiltrators are not ‘lone wolves’. They are agents of a much larger conspiracy. That group does not go away.
Of course, many devotees will not be able to process the idea of ‘infiltrators’ due to their cognitive dissonance and lack of understanding about how the world really works behind the scenes. But there is valid evidence to suggest that there were infiltrators at the top in ISKCON. Just consider these facts:
If you wanted to destroy a movement like ISKCON from within after Srila Prabhupada left, what would you do? There's no way you could turn Srila Prabhupada's disciples against him or get them to destroy the movement in any way. So what do you do? You'd get rid of them - 90% - one way or another, by making it so intolerable that they leave in disgust or are unceremoniously kicked out, which is precisely what happened.
You exalt 11 pretenders as 'pure devotees' on the level of Srila Prabhupada, and tell Srila Prabhupada's disciples that they now have to go through them to get to him. Are you kidding me??? B**LLSH*T! What gall. What arrogance. What ignorance. What Vaisnava aparadha. Does that sound like loyal loving disciples of Srila Prabhupada? After all the instruction Srila Prabhupada gave us (and them), do you think Srila Prabhupada would approve of them saying such offensive garbage and distorting the philosophy?
Then you fill up ISKCON with your disciples who treat you just like Srila Prabhupada and obey your every command like mindless zombies. And you don't give them much deep philosophy. Just enough to make them feel ‘spiritual’ and ‘loyal to the cause'. That way, you control everything with no fellow disciples to interfere with your dirty work.
Then you wait for the 11 to fall from grace, which is inevitable, since they were barely above being kanisthas. The top leader gurus all fall down in various modes of disgraceful behavior and the whole thing crumbles from the top down. The new disciples lose faith in bhakti and their gurus and the whole thing is a big mess. You also allow pedophilia to run rampant and cover it up and protect the perpetrators, just like the elite do in the world today.
That was the plan, and it was a good plan, and it almost worked, but Krsna didn't allow ISKCON to fail completely. But it’s still a stinking mess underneath with a nice smiling chanting facade. I’m not doubting the sincerity of the rank and file and even some of the leaders, but that’s how these bastards do things. It only takes a small handful of people at that top to orchestrate things.
Look at how they are centralizing management, which is directly against Srila Prabhupada's instructions. The GBC is now an independent West Bengal corporation, which conveniently shelters them from any law suits against ISKCON, thus protecting their personal finances, etc.
So YES this needs to be made public IF it in fact did happen, ie: the ‘attempt’ to kill Srila Prabhupada. This idea to stifle things because, “Would Lord Caitanya or Srila Prabhupada want this to be made public?” is also completely bogus IMO. If it’s true, then everyone needs to know that this happened, and more importantly, it means the infiltrators are STILL IN ISKCON. For that reason alone it should be exposed. It is a BIG wake up call.
That is my analysis and position.
http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2017/07/fight-over-jayapataka-empire-atlanta.html
Vyapaka Dasa June 17
This email was forwarded to me and I thought it may be of interest to devotees. The name of the sender will be kept confidential as no permission has been sought to allow its publication. So let the letter stand only on its merit:
Here is my analysis and general response.
Srila Prabhupada stated clearly to Nanda Kumara and others that there were infiltrators in ISKCON trying to destroy it from within. That means they were in the leadership, not rank and file. Here is the quote from Nanda Kumar:
"Srila Prabhupada told me something personally. His Divine Grace said... "There are those among us wearing dhoti, sikha, tilaka and neck beads, but they are not devotees. They are agents of kali who are here to try to stop our movement. You (said to me, but meaning all of us, especially those with a ksatriya nature) should find out who they are and weed them out." That's an exact quote.
Srila Prabhupada also wrote in a letter to Hamsadutta in 1970, regarding problems within ISKCON:
"...I do not know how far they are correct, but I have written him a letter that he may not do something which may harm the interest of the Society. You are also one of the members of the GBC, so you can think over very deeply how to save the situation. It is a fact however that the great sinister movement is within our Society."
Bhaktivinoda Thakura also confirms that this happens within the Gaudiya Vaisnava community:
After the time of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, those faithful to Him kept apart from non devotees, to avoid contamination. Seeing this, the personality of Kali sent his representatives in disguise to pollute the Vaisnava sampradaya. Posing as Vaisnavas, they spread their wicked doctrines, and appeared so intelligent and devoted that only pure devotees could detect their real identity.
Most devotees -- not only the most neophyte – were enchanted by their tricks. In this way Kali's agents expertly introduced karma, jnana, and anyabhilasa in the Vaisnava sampradaya and caused suddha-bhakti to vanish from the world. [end]
IF there is clear and compelling evidence to indicate that there was an ‘attempt' to poison Srila Prabhupada, that must be brought to light and made public. It is a totally moot point whether Srila Prabhupada actually succumbed to the poison because of his spiritual sakti. That’s not the issue. The point is whether there was indeed an ‘attempt’ to poison him.
If there was, then it further validates Srila Prabhupada's statements about infiltrators. We cannot ignore Srila Prabhupada's statements in that regard. And, more importantly, it means those infiltrators are still in the movement. And it doesn’t matter that all the GBC from that period in the 70s are almost all gone.
Infiltrators get new people to take over for them to maintain control and continue skewing things, like editing books, etc. They don’t just fade away and die. Infiltrators are not ‘lone wolves’. They are agents of a much larger conspiracy. That group does not go away.
Of course, many devotees will not be able to process the idea of ‘infiltrators’ due to their cognitive dissonance and lack of understanding about how the world really works behind the scenes. But there is valid evidence to suggest that there were infiltrators at the top in ISKCON. Just consider these facts:
If you wanted to destroy a movement like ISKCON from within after Srila Prabhupada left, what would you do? There's no way you could turn Srila Prabhupada's disciples against him or get them to destroy the movement in any way. So what do you do? You'd get rid of them - 90% - one way or another, by making it so intolerable that they leave in disgust or are unceremoniously kicked out, which is precisely what happened.
You exalt 11 pretenders as 'pure devotees' on the level of Srila Prabhupada, and tell Srila Prabhupada's disciples that they now have to go through them to get to him. Are you kidding me??? B**LLSH*T! What gall. What arrogance. What ignorance. What Vaisnava aparadha. Does that sound like loyal loving disciples of Srila Prabhupada? After all the instruction Srila Prabhupada gave us (and them), do you think Srila Prabhupada would approve of them saying such offensive garbage and distorting the philosophy?
Then you fill up ISKCON with your disciples who treat you just like Srila Prabhupada and obey your every command like mindless zombies. And you don't give them much deep philosophy. Just enough to make them feel ‘spiritual’ and ‘loyal to the cause'. That way, you control everything with no fellow disciples to interfere with your dirty work.
Then you wait for the 11 to fall from grace, which is inevitable, since they were barely above being kanisthas. The top leader gurus all fall down in various modes of disgraceful behavior and the whole thing crumbles from the top down. The new disciples lose faith in bhakti and their gurus and the whole thing is a big mess. You also allow pedophilia to run rampant and cover it up and protect the perpetrators, just like the elite do in the world today.
That was the plan, and it was a good plan, and it almost worked, but Krsna didn't allow ISKCON to fail completely. But it’s still a stinking mess underneath with a nice smiling chanting facade. I’m not doubting the sincerity of the rank and file and even some of the leaders, but that’s how these bastards do things. It only takes a small handful of people at that top to orchestrate things.
Look at how they are centralizing management, which is directly against Srila Prabhupada's instructions. The GBC is now an independent West Bengal corporation, which conveniently shelters them from any law suits against ISKCON, thus protecting their personal finances, etc.
So YES this needs to be made public IF it in fact did happen, ie: the ‘attempt’ to kill Srila Prabhupada. This idea to stifle things because, “Would Lord Caitanya or Srila Prabhupada want this to be made public?” is also completely bogus IMO. If it’s true, then everyone needs to know that this happened, and more importantly, it means the infiltrators are STILL IN ISKCON. For that reason alone it should be exposed. It is a BIG wake up call.
That is my analysis and position.
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